Ryan Wilson: Eakin towards a third line center Eakin towards a third line center

Until the RFA activity clears up, I think GMJR is staying put! We shall see.

as long as JR doesn't re-acquire Sutter (and apparently he has a NTC ) we should be good!

Jussi Jokinen would have been a better and cheaper UFA option than eakin.

His play declined too much to take on a 3 year 3.5 million deal. Maybe he bounces back; maybe your stuck with a declining player taking up a fair salary.

Honestly to take on Eakin I'd give up a 5th round pick with $2 million retained. At 1.5 million a year he's a reasonable risks/reward. If he sucks you dump him in the minors for 3 years and take a 500k a year cap hit. If he rebounds then at 1.5/year he's cheap.

you get lost and misguided going solely on your statistical numbers (as you did in your analysis).

Statistical breakdown forces you to ask questions, though you have to be careful in your interpretation. Did this young player loose ability to produce bigger scoring numbers. Can his skill translate to better scoring totals if used in a different role, with different players - Penguins play a different system. How might this player's mindset be while under Lindy Ruff's direction.. The North Stars were a bad team, defensively, with in experience and less than capable defensemen and goaltenders last season.

How would you expect Eakin to thrive, or produce good stat's in that scenario? The bottom line is, your GM and scouts recall the player Eakin recall his potential when he turned pro. Is there a reasonable expectation to find Eakin may tap into that lifeline? Is he aggressive, chippy, good on draws or anything else that endears him . towards ....yes, earning a spot in training camp.

Timing is critical vis -a-vis value attached to a player in some situations right now as compared to the end of training camp or beyond. What ptice do you pay. What is the opportunity cost. Is EAKIN EVER TO BE CONSIDERED A POTENTIAL GEM IN A PENGUINS UNIFORM, IN A THIRD LINE ROLE a la J Staahl history showed. Just presenting a point- or- view. The GM HAS TO DECIDE IF HE REALLY LIKS EAKIN OR IS INTEREST LUKEWARM

you get lost and misguided going solely on your statistical numbers (as you did in your analysis).

Statistical breakdown forces you to ask questions, though you have to be careful in your interpretation. Did this young player loose ability to produce bigger scoring numbers. Can his skill translate to better scoring totals if used in a different role, with different players - Penguins play a different system. How might this player's mindset be while under Lindy Ruff's direction.. The North Stars were a bad team, defensively, with in experience and less than capable defensemen and goaltenders last season.

How would you expect Eakin to thrive, or produce good stat's in that scenario? The bottom line is, your GM and scouts recall the player Eakin recall the player and potential Eakin possessed when he turned pro. Is there a reasonable expectation to find Eakin may tap into that lifeline? Is he aggressive, chippy, good on draws or anything else that endears him towards ....yes, earning a spot in training camp
- jhawk59

you get lost and misguided going solely on your statistical numbers (as you did in your analysis).

Statistical breakdown forces you to ask questions, though you have to be careful in your interpretation. Did this young player loose ability to produce bigger scoring numbers. Can his skill translate to better scoring totals if used in a different role, with different players - Penguins play a different system. How might this player's mindset be while under Lindy Ruff's direction.. The North Stars were a bad team, defensively, with in experience and less than capable defensemen and goaltenders last season.

How would you expect Eakin to thrive, or produce good stat's in that scenario? The bottom line is, your GM and scouts recall the player Eakin recall his potential when he turned pro. Is there a reasonable expectation to find Eakin may tap into that lifeline? Is he aggressive, chippy, good on draws or anything else that endears him . towards ....yes, earning a spot in training camp.

Timing is critical vis -a-vis value attached to a player in some situations right now as compared to the end of training camp or beyond. What ptice do you pay. What is the opportunity cost. Is EAKIN EVER TO BE CONSIDERED A POTENTIAL GEM IN A PENGUINS UNIFORM, IN A THIRD LINE ROLE a la J Staahl history showed. Just presenting a point- or- view. The GM HAS TO DECIDE IF HE REALLY LIKS EAKIN OR IS INTEREST LUKEWARM
- jhawk59

hot off the press......



PHISH SUCKS!!!!!!!!!


that is all

you get lost and misguided going solely on your statistical numbers (as you did in your analysis).

Statistical breakdown forces you to ask questions, though you have to be careful in your interpretation. Did this young player loose ability to produce bigger scoring numbers. Can his skill translate to better scoring totals if used in a different role, with different players - Penguins play a different system. How might this player's mindset be while under Lindy Ruff's direction.. The North Stars were a bad team, defensively, with in experience and less than capable defensemen and goaltenders last season.

How would you expect Eakin to thrive, or produce good stat's in that scenario? The bottom line is, your GM and scouts recall the player Eakin recall his potential when he turned pro. Is there a reasonable expectation to find Eakin may tap into that lifeline? Is he aggressive, chippy, good on draws or anything else that endears him . towards ....yes, earning a spot in training camp.

Timing is critical vis -a-vis value attached to a player in some situations right now as compared to the end of training camp or beyond. What ptice do you pay. What is the opportunity cost. Is EAKIN EVER TO BE CONSIDERED A POTENTIAL GEM IN A PENGUINS UNIFORM, IN A THIRD LINE ROLE a la J Staahl history showed. Just presenting a point- or- view. The GM HAS TO DECIDE IF HE REALLY LIKS EAKIN OR IS INTEREST LUKEWARM
- jhawk59

yes.

12 points in 60 games for 4 million dollars? Nope!

you get lost and misguided going solely on your statistical numbers (as you did in your analysis).

Statistical breakdown forces you to ask questions, though you have to be careful in your interpretation. Did this young player loose ability to produce bigger scoring numbers. Can his skill translate to better scoring totals if used in a different role, with different players - Penguins play a different system. How might this player's mindset be while under Lindy Ruff's direction.. The North Stars were a bad team, defensively, with in experience and less than capable defensemen and goaltenders last season.

How would you expect Eakin to thrive, or produce good stat's in that scenario? The bottom line is, your GM and scouts recall the player Eakin recall his potential when he turned pro. Is there a reasonable expectation to find Eakin may tap into that lifeline? Is he aggressive, chippy, good on draws or anything else that endears him . towards ....yes, earning a spot in training camp.

Timing is critical vis -a-vis value attached to a player in some situations right now as compared to the end of training camp or beyond. What ptice do you pay. What is the opportunity cost. Is EAKIN EVER TO BE CONSIDERED A POTENTIAL GEM IN A PENGUINS UNIFORM, IN A THIRD LINE ROLE a la J Staahl history showed. Just presenting a point- or- view. The GM HAS TO DECIDE IF HE REALLY LIKS EAKIN OR IS INTEREST LUKEWARM
- jhawk59

The North Stars made it to the Stanley cup finals, well the last year they existed anyways.

Saw something on TIOPs headline of interest.

What about ryan spooner for connor sheary?

Quick look spooner has the production level we need for 3c.

Boston has enough centers (don't know them well saw backes listed at wing on one roster site)
Bergeron, Kejci, backes, spooner, riley nash. So he looks movable. On paper sheary adds more scoring punch than one of those guys playing wing; but obviously played with sid and poor in playoffs.

I think its a fair swap. Both 25 rfa.

hot off the press......



PHISH SUCKS!!!!!!!!!


that is all
- pensfan024

Saw something on TIOPs headline of interest.

What about ryan spooner for connor sheary?

Quick look spooner has the production level we need for 3c.

Boston has enough centers (don't know them well saw backes listed at wing on one roster site)
Bergeron, Kejci, backes, spooner, riley nash. So he looks movable. On paper sheary adds more scoring punch than one of those guys playing wing; but obviously played with sid and poor in playoffs.

I think its a fair swap. Both 25 rfa.
- sditulli

What a terrible trade for PIT

Ryan, it was nice of you to hire Garth as your headline writer.

Saw something on TIOPs headline of interest.

What about ryan spooner for connor sheary?

Quick look spooner has the production level we need for 3c.

Boston has enough centers (don't know them well saw backes listed at wing on one roster site)
Bergeron, Kejci, backes, spooner, riley nash. So he looks movable. On paper sheary adds more scoring punch than one of those guys playing wing; but obviously played with sid and poor in playoffs.

I think its a fair swap. Both 25 rfa.
- sditulli

Sheary is much better than Spooner. Gets most of his points from 5v5 play and isn't a possession anchor. If we trade Sheary it better be for a hell of a lot more than Ryan (frank)ing Spooner.

Possession can make up for lackluster offense. If your team has the puck the other team can't score. Eakin's possession didn't make up for his lack of offense.
- Ryan_Wilson

This is 100% true. Sadly, the way that "possession" is defined by the stat heads is not by having the puck, it's by shot attempts for/against.

Jussi Jokinen would have been a better and cheaper UFA option than eakin.

His play declined too much to take on a 3 year 3.5 million deal. Maybe he bounces back; maybe your stuck with a declining player taking up a fair salary.

Honestly to take on Eakin I'd give up a 5th round pick with $2 million retained. At 1.5 million a year he's a reasonable risks/reward. If he sucks you dump him in the minors for 3 years and take a 500k a year cap hit. If he rebounds then at 1.5/year he's cheap.
- sditulli

And why would Vegas do that?

And why would Vegas do that?
- jmatchett383

Because HockeyBuzz

And why would Vegas do that?
- jmatchett383

I didn't say they would do that. I said what it would take to make me interested in eakin. Why would we take on a declining player with 3 years at 10.5. Best case scenario is we rehabilitate him and he's worth the contractd. Worse case is having an awful contract for a 4th or 5th line player.

This is 100% true. Sadly, the way that "possession" is defined by the stat heads is not by having the puck, it's by shot attempts for/against.
- jmatchett383

The North Stars made it to the Stanley cup finals, well the last year they existed anyways.
- Dcoms

By "made it to the Stanley cup finals," do you mean to say that they missed the playoffs?

I didn't say they would do that. I said what it would take to make me interested in eakin. Why would we take on a declining player with 3 years at 10.5. Best case scenario is we rehabilitate him and he's worth the contractd. Worse case is having an awful contract for a 4th or 5th line player.
- sditulli

Fair enough. I just don't see any way Vegas takes a pick and retained salary for a player that they just picked up in the expansion draft. I think they'd rather take the shot at "rehabilitating" him instead. I think he CAN put up double digit goals, but I don't think he will in Vegas.